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joberg Community Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 7:58 am Post subject: |
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What a mess...the "RPF" is in danger of loosing a lot of valuable members and that would be a shame. I guess it'll take several months/years to restore faith into those who've already left or the ones thinking of leaving that board |
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andy Community Guide
Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Posts: 6237 Location: Rochester, NY
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Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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I can't say I go there much anymore. With all this including some of their banner adds being infected with trojans, I think I will stay a way for a while longer. I have other sources to get the news from there.
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clutch Community Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:16 am Post subject: |
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Looks like the perpetrator got mod status on the real RPF. Shortly thereafter, the real rpf goes boom. What a cluster-fk. |
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Noeland Community Guide
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:50 am Post subject: |
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Jeez. It's got to be a personal matter. Whoever it is, they are going after the RPF with a vengeance. _________________ I don't have enough blasters! |
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joberg Community Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:51 am Post subject: |
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Yep, as we speak the RPF (or should I say Thereplicapropforum) is down again. Everytime you clicked the post, you had a blank page with : no connection this is not going well for our fellow prop builders/collectors and the likes |
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amish Community Guide
Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 1433 Location: Outside Philadelphia
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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I do not believe it to be a personal matter. Sites like the RPF which are considered profitable are attacked like this everyday. The domain name was stolen and then it was held at ransom for $34k.
What caused all the other stuff to happen was when the script kiddies of the RPF decided to launch an illegal DDOS against the attackers fake RPF. Regardless of the moral right, the pissed off a hacker that gained access enough to the RPF to take control, take a domain name, download a backed up database of the site, and who knows what else.
In order to accomplish at minimum stealing a domain name that takes a great bit of effort as the hacker would need to have authorizations go back and forth by between the owner and the registrar, he posed as Art and communicated directly with GoDaddy.
That is huge, also to get the backup database of the RPF from 12-27-2011, he needed either access to the RPF's ftp site or to Art's machine or his hosting companies machines.
In any case, this is not the people you want to mess with online. Best advice is to let the law settle this legally and hopefully the domain will be transferred back. Otherwise, its like kicking a hornets nest what some are doing at the RPF.
edit : the 34k part is hearsay. _________________ www.propsummit.com
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BR12819 Community Member
Joined: 31 Oct 2006 Posts: 180 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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It may have started out as a simple site hijack, but after all the harrasment that was visited upon him by some of the more zealous members of the RPF, this may have irked the hacker into taking things to another level. We'll see how this all turns out.
Just read that their is a second RPF Facebook page one real, one set by the hacker.
All said, this is going to be a long process and I hope one day the RPF returns to what it was before this incedent. _________________ full tilt boogie baby
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Noeland Community Guide
Joined: 24 Oct 2006 Posts: 1328
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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Well, based on some things Art has posted on his FB page, it looks like a banned member may be involved in some way. Not that he or she is a hacker, but is involved.
Like most thing with the RPF, they like to be elusive and secretive in their comments.
Whatever the case is, I'm going to keep an eye on it in the event that it impacts me personally somehow.
Yes, the hacker(s) even cloned their Facebook page, and setup a fake facebook page. It's a full on attack now. _________________ I don't have enough blasters! |
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Fangorn81 Community Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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Geez.
First it takes me forever to finally remember to apply for an account during one of their windows.
Then the whole site gets throw into a hackathon of chaos!
I won't be visiting (well, I won't be logging in anyway) for a while. And I went through the trouble today of changing my password on like a jillion sites...just in case.
_________________ Good against remotes is one thing. Good against the living? That's something else.
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amish Community Guide
Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 1433 Location: Outside Philadelphia
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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Fangorn81 wrote: | Geez.
First it takes me forever to finally remember to apply for an account during one of their windows.
Then the whole site gets throw into a hackathon of chaos!
I won't be visiting (well, I won't be logging in anyway) for a while. And I went through the trouble today of changing my password on like a jillion sites...just in case.
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Did the same thing, most are insignificant, but it is the places that I don't remember being registered at which worries me. _________________ www.propsummit.com
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joberg Community Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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How well are we protected on Propsummit? This isn't a malicious question, I know Amish and others are doing a great job at keeping this site fairly free of spam and the likes...but with certain people out there one must wonder |
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andy Community Guide
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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The site has been pretty uninteresting for me for a long time now. his attempt at making money off of it is most likely the reason for what happened. The ad banners had a few adds that had Trojans in them, and it is likely Art's computer got infected and compromised from that, and then once they had control of his system, the rest they say is history. most of these types of hackers come from China and Russia as well as the middle east now. Also as much as Art wants to say it isn't GoDaddy, this seems to happen to a lot of GoDaddy sites. This is about money, not revenge, but it may serve Art's and GoDaddy's interest to pretend it is an act of revenge. I am just glad I haven't been there in a long time, and don't plan on visiting anytime soon either. RIP RPF...It was nice knowing you when you were an underground fan site, and not just another commercial venture.
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amish Community Guide
Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 1433 Location: Outside Philadelphia
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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Hello all,
As far as protection, we are only as strong as the password securing this forum, which is fairly strong
Otherwise, I would believe that the RPF was hacked possibly from Art's or another Admin's pc getting hacked. In order to steal a domain, you need to authorize it as the owner and it sets off a chain of emails between godaddy and the new registrar.
Also, the fact that a copy of the backup database of the rpf was stolen points to either a compromised password or computer. Not sure which, but there was a big breakdown somewhere in security.
Unfortunately at the moment, the RPF has many members attempting to attack the "hacker" which now "owns" the RPF domain. What is unfortunate is that it may be hosted on a legitimate host meaning that those attacking it are attacking something that the host deems a legitimate. Also, their ISPs do not care if they are morally right, only that they are committing an illegal attack on someone's website. For the time being it looks like nobody has been nailed by their ISP. However, if someone reported the new site as promoting and not discouraging these attacks against the rpf . com, it could mean bigger trouble for Art and the contributing members there.
It seems the younger audience that the RPF has gained in recent years may cause further problems by thinking it is cool to provoke what appears to be a very savvy hacker who probably makes their living doing this.
As someone said on the RPF, don't poke the bear. _________________ www.propsummit.com
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Mr Webber Community Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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I have found the place to be an invaluable source for reference and inspiration since i started exploring my non BR prop making and collecting
and have been lucky enough to come across some remarkably talented and generous people that have really helped me out.
Im very hopefull that if the thing falls completely apart that someone can pick up the pieces. _________________ Formerly offworld66 |
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clutch Community Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:49 am Post subject: |
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They've already put up a vid on youtube saying to spam the hell out of the site... |
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andy Community Guide
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:18 am Post subject: |
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Not sure if putting up posts that the fake site is fake, and telling members to go over to the new site is really "Spamming" but here is the vid...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDLSHJEopNU
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joberg Community Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 8:11 am Post subject: |
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Well, it's a mess and as others have said, I think the young Padawans at the RPF saw fit to seek revenge on the Russian hackers...bad idea since these guys are doing these types of hacks all the time and are very good at it.
Hopefully, the members can re-group and try to put the site back on the map or just exist on another brand new board. |
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clutch Community Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Have you been to the fake site? Telling the Ruskies to shove dicks up their arses is not really telling members to go to the new site. |
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amish Community Guide
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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As someone else said already, trying to fight these people is like bringing a pea shooter to a nuke fight, you just don't do it. Best course is to follow proper channels and not piss them off. _________________ www.propsummit.com
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andy Community Guide
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Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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clutch wrote: |
Have you been to the fake site? Telling the Ruskies to shove dicks up their arses is not really telling members to go to the new site. |
That was (supposed to be) my point actually, They told people in the video to go over there to "spam" the fake site and tell people to go to the new address/real site, but I think it came accross as "go troll it", which is a bad idea. I think they should have stayed specific in the video.
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