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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 9:26 am    Post subject: UPDATE! My new project! Build Thread Completed Reply with quote

Okay guys and gals, The base for my newest project arrived yesterday So I thought I'd start a thread detailing it's modification.

I'll not keep you waiting for pics, so to start off here's a rough sketch of some ideas for what the finished prop will look like:



and here is the base gun:



It's a Zoraki R1 9mm or .380 Blank firing revolver. Thoughts comments questions feel free to post them up. I look forward to drawing upon the vast wealth of knowledge the board has to offer.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice piece to start off with!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a solid gun, very well constructed. Not at all what I expected.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good base for the project(even if it's only blank firing, you'd expect a solid gun capable of withstanding the power generated by blank rounds).
Gero, one of our member here has posted a bunch of scatchbuilt guns that he made and I'm sure you could find in them some additional ideas for your project
Eager to see where it's going to lead Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I'm wondering if I should use PVC tubing for the outer barrel or thin wall metal.

BTW my inspiration for this build comes from a piece made by fellow prop builder Matuso:


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd go with PVC...but that's because I have no tools to work/machine metal with. Weight will be a factor on your build since that gun seems heavy.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zoraki makes much better blank firing guns than Ekol or Bruni or Kimar. Umarex and Zoraki are the best around.

If you're planning to mount anything in the gun itself, I do advise you pick up an extra set of taps to thread with.

I'd go with metal.

Your inspiration is one of my favorite builds by Matt. I love that blaster!

I'm planning to pick up one of these revolver soon to do a Split Second revolver.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have liked to go with metal but, unfortunately I'm now on a bit of a time crunch to get it finished and shipped out. That, and I don't have all the tools necessary to properly build it using all metal.

I'd have to agree about the Zoraki build quality. I have a Kimar SAA blank gun, and the quality is more on par with a Denix replica, which is to say the metal is pretty soft and the finish pretty thin. Doable, but the Zoraki is much better.

I'm going to try and get this finished by this weekend, so stay tuned folks!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

made some good progress just in the couple hours I've been at it today. Now I need to think about greeblies.... anyone have some thoughts about what I could put on this thing? Also, anyone know of a good filler that would adhere well to PVC and still take some abuse?

Progress pics coming soon!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay so I didn't get as many progress pics as I wanted, but I had to get the thing done which I did.

I lieu of pics I'll just say that I found the PVC to be pretty easy to work with, my trusty dremel made pretty short work of it. I bought some Model Master Metalizer in gun metal (of course) and I gotta say, while I was a little leery at first it has a great finish, though a little thin. I still can't decide on whether or not to slap a coat of sealer on it or not. Probably not as it has to get shipped out today.

I also added some small diameter tubing along the out side to break up the outlines of the piece. and also added a small skull trinket to the under-barrel area. I would have chosen something different, but as the film it's going to be used in has a alchemy subplot and they wanted the symbol Kaput Mortum on it, so I had to put it on there somewhere.

Now for some crappy PICS!!!!!!!




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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not bad...difficult to see what's going on at the front and on top(some type of grove or raised lines on the barrel).
How are you going to secure the whole shebang?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those are the small bits of tubing I cut, bent, and attached. The pvc fits pretty tight over the barrel and lower frame of the gun. The pistol had a removable rear sight that I unscrewed and found a longer screw to go through the pvc and into the pistols upper frame. The lower piece is super glued to the upper piece. the zip ties are there so I didn't have to hold it while the glue set Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got you...are you going to drill the holes to expose the barrel(as in your initial design?)
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I attempted to do them on a scrap piece but I couldn't get them reliably uniform so unfortunately, I decided to abandoned that aspect of the design.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you use a drill press and clamp your tube on the table you should be able to make them straight for sure...if you use a drill and try to bore the holes hand-free you'll run into troubles for sure Crying or Very sad
What kind of tools do you have?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All I used was a vise, dremel, x-acto knife, and small hand saw. Maybe for version 2.0 I'll put the holes in

But actually, what I really want to do for the next iteration is buy the HTG sniper rifle that has the almost identical receiver to the Steyr along with a few parts from Rich, and try to make a blank firing version of the blaster we all know and love.

Before I can get started on that I'll have to wait until the project it's being used on wraps shooting, I had to ship it out last monday to make sure it gets on set in time for filming.

Cheers guys!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, a drill press is something you could get for Xmas Very Happy ...it's much better than the stuff you used (unless you like the swearing part of the hobby )
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd love a drill press but the closest I could do right now is get the one that uses the dremel. Space is at a premium and I don't have anywhere to put it. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understand; space can be tight sometime, 'specially in our hobby Wink
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