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BadAtNames
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:55 pm    Post subject: .223 vs .222 Receiver Size Difference Reply with quote

Forgive me if this has been addressed elsewhere (I searched, but didn't find anything specifically discussing dimensions) but has anyone established if there is, in fact, a size difference between the .222 and .223 Steyr receivers? Obviously there's going to be size differences in the magazine, barrel, etc., but I'm wondering if a difference that small translates to the OUTER dimensions of the receiver as well?

I ask because, while I once saw a real live SL .222 for sale on Gunbroker for 5 minutes before one of us no doubt snatched it up (still kicking myself for not clicking "Buy It Now" button immediately), I feel like the .223 is ever so slightly more available and, disregarding absolute screen-accuracy for a moment, am wondering how compatible that receiver would be with the overall design of most replicas out there...

While watching the video series the Tested guys did on building a Tomenosuke kit Mark Dubeau mentioned something about an earlier model blaster replica's parts being incompatible with a lot of other kits because the makers had used a .223 receiver instead of a .222 and there was an appreciable size difference between the two, yet elsewhere I've heard of people sticking .222 magazines in .223 receivers, etc.

Does anyone on here have any first-hand experience with the two different receivers that would care to comment?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All Steyr SL model receivers are the same size regardless of caliber.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, I have a .222 and a .223 and the receivers are identical.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, so before I go starting an entirely new thread I figured see if you guys knew the answer to some of my other Steyr-related questions, too:

What are the differences between the later model .222 SL receivers and the earlier ones of the same exact caliber? Obviously with the later model SLs the serial number is 5 digits instead of 4, and so the maker's marks are bumped down underneath the serial instead of in line with it, but what other differences are there? I've heard Adam Savage mention something about the bevel around the ejector port being slightly different... is that it? And is the dividing line between "screen accurate" receivers and "not 100% screen accurate" right at serial number "9999" or is it more about the year the receiver was manufactured than the actual production number?

Also, if these are questions readily answered in threads elsewhere, I apologize. I'm trying my damnedest to do the legwork, I swear. Unsurprisingly, however, all roads seem to lead back to here or the RPF anyway...
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know the bolt handle is incorrect on some of the later models. It's more bulbous, instead of kind of flat on top with the ribbing under it. More importantly some don't have the full "Steyr Daimler Puch A.G. Steyr Mannlicher Mod SL" on the side and just say "Steyr Mannlicher SL" or something like that. Sorry to mob all your posts tonight!

In general four-digit serial numbers get you where you want to go, but always look at the pics closely and ask for more if you can't see the details you want!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No apologies necessary, you're not mobbing, you're privately tutoring! Wink

I have fantastic news that I just have to share with the only community that knows how awesome this feels: I literally moments ago bought my first Steyr Mannlicher SL in .222 with a 4 digit serial number that's higher than the hero, but lower than Adam Savage's while still being in the 9000 range (so I know it's AT LEAST as accurate as his receiver) and that is definitely good enough for me! Finally, obsessively checking all those gun sites day after day for months has paid off...

I've still got a LONG way to go, but it goes without saying this is the most critical, most expensive, and rarest piece of the whole project.

Next up: not tearing my hair out while I wait for my local government bureaucracy to process my pistol permit application. Smile

Special thanks to hirohawa for selling me my first Tomenosuke and getting me started on the (very expensive) path to actually collecting and not just researching this stuff, and particularly veektohr for being my personal Blaster tutor these past couple weeks. You guys rock!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats BadAtNames! I know how it feels because I just finally scored my very first and very well taken care of Steyr SL, its friggen gorgous! Mine ihas a 5 digit serial, but you know what I say about that...Forget about it!?
Everything else on this beautiful 47 year old Rifle other than the serial is completely screen accurate, including the bolt handle's correct shape. This Rifle is so nice that it's almost a damn shame it's getting machined.....Forget about it!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BadAtNames: congrats on snatching that baby Cool It'll be fun to see what's next for you and your project.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, guys! I'm currently wrapping up getting my pistol permit for my county so I can go out and get the Bulldog next. Not living in Cali means I can actually get a hold of a "classic" Bulldog and not have to pick one off a roster that's not quite 100% accurate. Then it's off to find a smithy who can turn me a barrel and put it on. I'm not as brave as Veektohr in that respect, I'll let a profession replace the part the bullet comes out of. Wink
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