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BeastMaster Community Member
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 994 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 8:54 am Post subject: symbols on the receiver? |
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does anybody know where this eagle symbol at the end of the receiver is from?
it resembles the Prussian eagle, though I'm not sure if that is it
anybody got any good pictures of it? the one on the worldcon seems a bit worn away. _________________ "F*ck it, it's just a movie. Let him worry about it" Harrison Ford |
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BeastMaster Community Member
Joined: 19 Jul 2007 Posts: 994 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:35 am Post subject: |
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actually it's most likely the Austrian arms eagle:
cant find anything online for the actual steyr symbol though _________________ "F*ck it, it's just a movie. Let him worry about it" Harrison Ford |
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andy Community Guide
Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Posts: 6237 Location: Rochester, NY
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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Pic fixed,
Here is a detail of the Tomenosuke reconstruction of the stamps..
Andy |
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Noeland Community Guide
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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Could be that was stamped into the reciever after steyr sold it to siginfy it belonged to a certain armory, or regiment or some such. _________________ I don't have enough blasters! |
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andy Community Guide
Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Posts: 6237 Location: Rochester, NY
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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The same stamps are on the inside of the bolt handle. At least one of them is probably an import stamp.
Andy |
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Noeland Community Guide
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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As luck would have it, another member was asking me about the safety switch, so I was researching the modern day version of the SL, the SSG, and found these pictures on gunbroker.
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BeastMaster Community Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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cheers for shedding more light on this guys!
andy: great find! don't know how I missed that one studying karls image more closely I noticed the eagle definitely has a crown which I'm not sure the Tomenosuke guys picked up on. _________________ "F*ck it, it's just a movie. Let him worry about it" Harrison Ford |
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andy Community Guide
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Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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I think you are right. It does look like there is the slightest hint of a crown there.
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BeastMaster Community Member
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Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:42 pm Post subject: |
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I just noticed in another of karls picks there is clearly the hammer and sickle as seen in the austrian arms eagle.
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BigLoop22 Community Member
Joined: 24 Sep 2008 Posts: 19 Location: Louisiana
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Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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Gents,
Those markings could be "proof marks", "acceptance marks", "manufacturer's marks", or "import marks", depending on the country of origin, the end-user, or even which organization sold the rifle. Some markings could be hidden, elsewhere, on the gun, too.
A proof mark shows that the gun has passed a safety test, usually some Federal requirement for holding up to repeated firing. Sometimes, the military requires its own proofing test be passed, too. Often, a "proof load" is used to test how well the receiver handles excess pressure. The proof load contains an overcharge of gunpowder. The proof mark is applied, when the gun passes this test.
An old German proofmark would be "Crown over N", the pre-WWII sign of testing. The "Eagle over N" was used at the beginning of the War. The Swastika was an added marking of the NAZI party. The German government added various markings to their guns, such as "R.F.V. ########" number, to show that the Reich Financing Administration was issued these guns. The NAZIs loved to mark things!
Often, armory, ordnance, or arsenal, markings include a "flaming bomb" depiction.
Also, often, you will find several markings on European guns, which will be any combination of the marks that mentioned, above. The proof mark should always be present, no matter what other marks are added, later.
This Web site has some information about gun markings:
http://proofhouse.com/
Here is the Walther proof markings page:
http://www.whog.org/ppk/markings.htm
...just to give you an idea of what some of the marks are, and what they look like. I could not find a dedicated Steyr page.
Also, some letters & numbers could be "date codes" that tell you when a gun was made.
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joberg Community Member
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Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Shawn for the useful info concerning the markings of the gun.
Usually in Europe the flaming grenade was the property of the "GĂ©nie", that's the Engineering section of the army in charge of building bridges to testing firearms.
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