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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love the landing gear, just not sure how the front foot is supposed to come out there. Confused

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I love the landing gear, just not sure how the front foot is supposed to come out there. Confused

Andy


Tell me about it.
It still looks cool though, even if it can't be explained, lol.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't really like the landing gear on that Narcissus model, looks weird (and please don't ask me why, it's just my opinion here !)

Razz

OK, here are some pics of the screen-used Narcissus model, sent by Phil Rae last year...

Enjoy !



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great pics Fred!!
Love the pin up girl painted on the side, never noticed that before.
Love the interior aswell.
Such a detailed model.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Neil !

IIRC, the nose art pin-up came from a WW2 airplane model... a B17 (or B52 ?) named "Miss Peggy"... The transition to "Miss Piggy" (the nickname of the Narcissus) was quite easy to imagine !



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought they mey have been decals from a kit.
In the third picture you posted you can see a couple of decals still on their paper (I think they are anyway)

Here's some of the kits used...


Again, from Marin Bowers site.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Here are some pictures of the original


So is that supposed to be the restored original miniature? Or a duplicate that Bower built later (as he so often does with Eagles from Space 1999)?

What I like most about those landing gear, is that you can take them off. Shocked
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

phase pistol wrote:
Gaff87 wrote:
Here are some pictures of the original


So is that supposed to be the restored original miniature? Or a duplicate that Bower built later (as he so often does with Eagles from Space 1999)?


Umm..... Confused lol I'm not sure.

I take it i'm the only fan of the landing gear then? Sad

Here's another great item.
Full size it says aswell.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Full Size Dead Kane™ is the perfect companion for your Richies Armor ALIEN Environmental Suit.

Actually an update on the Narcissus, it looks like Bower re-created it from scratch, based on photos of the original miniature.

Which explains a lot, including why the "EI" logo he came up with, is different.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

phase pistol wrote:
Gaff87 wrote:
Here are some pictures of the original


So is that supposed to be the restored original miniature? Or a duplicate that Bower built later (as he so often does with Eagles from Space 1999)?

What I like most about those landing gear, is that you can take them off. Shocked


Karl,

those are shots of a Narcissus model Martin Bower re-created for himself a couple of years ago (no landing gears on the screen-used model). There's a devoted section to the making of this studio scale model on his site.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SKIN JOB 66 wrote:
IIRC, the nose art pin-up came from a WW2 airplane model... a B17 (or B52 ?) named "Miss Peggy"


Thanks Fred, I see that page now!

Bower's site IDs the decal as

"Joltin' Jossie" transfer from the Airfix "Superfortress "

..changed to say "Miss Piggy".

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ooops...i wrote "Original" on the post i made, i thought it was, my apologies Confused
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I take it i'm the only fan of the landing gear then? Sad


Don't be sad!

Actually what's just not working for me, is the landing gear CLAW... it's just too "cute" that they look like the Nostromo gear. And held out on those spindly leg frameworks, they look a bit strange.

(to get them opened there would have to be a whole lot of origami-like unfolding I should think... strangely complicated for a rescue craft).

Possibly the model would be improved by replacing the claw feet with a simple landing pad or foot, like a Space 1999 Eagle or Apollo Lunar Module.

Frankly I always thought the Narcissus would have NO gear at all, and it would just belly-flop to a splashdown or something.

I could also visualize just a couple panels opening up on the bottom, skids possibly, to ease the touch down on land.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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(to get them opened there would have to be a whole lot of origami-like unfolding I should think... strangely complicated for a rescue craft).


I like the sound of that though Smile

I think it'd look pretty cool with a normal landing gear aswell, i know there aren't wheels in sci-fi though Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Action Fleet toy just has little landing skids that fold out from the bottom.

I think these look OK except I would shorten the front gear and angle it out a little more. The Narc can land nose-down a little I think, does not need to be perfectly level.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Possibly the gear could fold out from the sides... there's something compelling about those long panels at around amidships there...





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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with Fred, I don't like the landing gear either. For some reason it just doesn't seem to work for me.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the landing gear, I think it looks pretty cool.
Probably would have different methods for touching down on a planet surface though, such as a parachute deploying, or some kind of inflatable 'cushions' like they used on the Mars Rover vehicle. But not a woopey cushion though, that would be bad.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hey look, it's X-wing langing gear! I'm glad the bottom two engines are just for looks. Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah it was all part of that late 70s trend for making the bottom two engines just "dummies" for storing the landing gear. Razz

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