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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The key receptacle and that board or whatever was in there. I have never seen a picture of it
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to rain on your parade Mike, but (please correct me if I'm wrong) these screws are " Robertson" and not "Phillips". Wink
Also that piece could simply be a drawer handle or a metal slide of somekind...who knows, but easy to reproduce
"Flat screws" or rivets or normal screws filled to look like rivets? Anything is possible in the world of prop making.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you're wrong.

To me, that's exactly how Philips screws look when they're thickly painted over. Plus there's the possibility that they could already have been used screws and so the slots were slightly 'softened'... I have no proof but I'm sticking with my story! Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2009 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To me they look like heavily painted phillips screws.

I think Mike is right.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 8:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice work Mike, and welcome!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today I began cutting out slabs for the key box - I should begin glueing them together tomorrow and I'll try to take some photos as I go. Smile It's only supposed to be a mockup at this point.

Mind you, I always say that and then it ends up being the final model. Rolling Eyes

Meanwhile I started on the key in Sketchup.



It's pretty rough at the moment. (In fact the real key is also pretty rough, which isn't helping!) However there's a nice thing you can do in Sketchup, which is to project the photo onto your model, and then turn it:



Bear in mind everything appears shifted to one side because of refraction, but this should assist in trying to locate and lay out pieces for the interior. That's not something I'm volunteering for, by the way!

Am I right to think that nobody has a flat-on photo of the whole key? Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW, excellent start on the key !



BTW, looking closely at the handle of the key, I definitely think it was made using cheap wooden frames...

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep Fred, wooden quarter-round screwed together and probably a molding (wave design at the bottom of the handle) to finish it off.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The way it appears to me is: a half-inch thick profile, with two sections of half-inch half-round moulding and two sections of three-quarter-inch attached to each side.

The 'wavy' part intrigues me because the radii are identical to the smaller moulding. I propose that little half-inch pieces were cut from the wood and laid out to make the grip, along with some filler to smooth the curves. It's just a theory. Wink



And just for fun, here's how it looks inside the box (lid removed for clarity).



It may look as if there's a lot of air around it, but that's partly because I haven't added the chamfered interior, which goes all the way around and looks like a mini skirting board. I'm not entirely sure how that was done (in real life) and so I'm holding off on my model...

Just when you think you've stared at those photos all you can... today I noticed the nut at the top of the locking bar, outside the box, presumably stopping the bar from dropping down.

I'm having some trouble finding a source for the opal plastic to go in the thumb scanner. Only a small amount required!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike, great work!
I can't believe how quickly you did the drawing.
This would be a great piece to own.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My guess is the opal thumbprint scanner plastic is a white acrylic sheet cut to fit and back lit. The shadow effect around its perimeter on the photos is either dust, or is probably the effect of it sitting in a recess, glued to a wood border; the thicker the acrylic, the blurrier the shadow.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good stuff Mike, looks 95 % finished
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Making the transition from 2D to 3D. A few photos...

Some of the parts cut out and ready to assemble:



Box taking shape:



Door in position (just placed on for the photo):



More soon, perhaps.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh man, that is niiiiiice.
What material is that made of?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know the technical name for it but around here it's called Foamex. It's kind of a light plastic board, quite flexible but strong, and can be cut with a knife (bonus!).

Not to be confused with foamcore, which it definitely isn't.

We use it at work so there's always lots lying around.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking great Mike.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 6:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike Rush wrote:
I don't know the technical name for it but around here it's called Foamex. It's kind of a light plastic board, quite flexible but strong, and can be cut with a knife (bonus!).

Not to be confused with foamcore, which it definitely isn't.

We use it at work so there's always lots lying around.


Cheers Mike Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lookin' good so far Mike.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most Excellent!!

I am loving it Mike!! I am still waiting for Bob to get me the tracing of the interior. As soon as it arrives I will let you all know.

Best
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike Rush wrote:
I don't know the technical name for it but around here it's called Foamex. It's kind of a light plastic board, quite flexible but strong, and can be cut with a knife (bonus!).

Not to be confused with foamcore, which it definitely isn't.

We use it at work so there's always lots lying around.


Sintra. Not sure if that's a brand name or not, but that's what a lot of people call it in the states.

The box is looking excellent!
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