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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did some digging around on that loading system, seems like the designers may have gone with the HK G11 LMG system for the magazine designs, have a look at this diagram:



Here's the article I snagged that image from. Pretty interesting stuff on there. I always like it when someone designs futuristic weapons that are built on plausible designs.

http://www.hkpro.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=24:the-lmg11-caseless-mg&catid=11:rare-prototypes&Itemid=5
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking about yesterday how the magazine of your rifle could work right and you gave me an answer today !

Thanks
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No new progress worthy of pics today. I added another section of rail to the top to bring it in line with the reference images. I botched the vinyl for the logo by sending it to the printer as RGB instead of CMYK so I had to re-order new stickers, this time with the correct CMYK color code for the Krylon paint I used. Hopefully it'll match the paint well enough to not warrant a third round of design. I've left the current manufacturer markings on there until the new batch arrives.

Here's the revised logo:


Once this project's wrapped up, I'm definitely taking a break, then maybe I'll see about working up something District 9 inspired of my own design.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big difference in the Avatar weapon is that it feeds from the bottom.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see the pic Confused
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


Matter of fact, here's a link to all Avatar weapons:
http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Avatar
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finally got this finished. I wound up having to cast the selector switches myself as the frame's just a bit too wide for the center post to reach the other side. So unfortunately the selectors are dummys. The only moving parts on this are the switches on the scope and the flip up sights on the top rail.

Despite tracking down the actual CMYK color code for the green used on the body, the decal still wound up being slightly off color. The contrast in these pics is atrocious, its much less contrasted in person. I may try hitting one of the spare decals with a flat coat to see if that takes the shine down. The other option is to try scanning the paint on the body, and using that as a base for a new decal. That would also allow me to digitally 'grime' the markings a bit so they're not so factory fresh.





And to give it a bit of scale:


Its pretty sizeable. I think if I were to do another one of these, I may scale the templates down about 3-5%, and I'd go with a darker grey black for the body. Overall with all the attachments, its pretty hefty, but not unreasonably so.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking pretty sharp...just for the decal as you said (nothing wrong with "Fresh-from-the-factory"look Wink ). All in all a very good result!
Thanks for the link btw.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done !!!

Cool

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beautiful! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys! Now if I didn't suck at casting anything larger than those selector switches, I'd look into getting this done up in resin.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2010 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome work.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks really nice, excellent job!
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm currently working on another build of this rifle, a variant. I decided to go with a lighter material this time, and used 2 inch insulation foam. I've got the basic frame cut out and sanded to shape. I'd like to fiberglass this sucker for durability.

Anyone have any tips or suggestions on how I might seal the foam so the resin doesn't dissolve it?

WIP pics as it develops.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The resin will disolve the insulation foam Confused I usually use blue insulation foam (R10 insulation value) and glue stuff to it with contact cement...I wanted to use resin with it (well, Bondo+Resin=Rondo) now I'm not so sure; I'll have to test it out to make sure.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I discovered the magic of the alien blood effect when I was a kid and tried to spray paint some styrofoam lol.

I coated the whole thing with a few coats of acrylic gesso to seal off the foam, then when it dried, I gave it a few coats of primer. The gesso did the trick. It only developed a few pits here and there where the gesso was thin. Probably should've tinted the gesso so I could see any missed spots. Shouldn't be a problem to patch up those spots with some acrylic modelling paste though.

After a light sanding I'll be ready to lay in the fiberglass.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coming along well, I think it's going to be another great project! Cool
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update: While the gesso did seal off the surface of the foam, the heat from the resin curing softened the foam under the cloth and it wound up sinking into the surface. Decided to scrap the current build and start fresh.

Grabbed one of those planks of that really hard, dense craft foam (haven't been able to find one place in town that carries either the blue or pink foam). Seeing that the craft foam's got a denser core but an open surface, I gave a scrap piece a coat of spackle to seal it off and fill in the surface so it'd be smooth. After it dried, I laid in some resin and a small swatch of fiberglass cloth and it worked like a charm. The resin didn't eat through the spackle and the smooth surface had the cloth laying down nice and smooth.

It'll probably need two layers of cloth and a top layer of resin to really strengthen it, but should come out nice and sturdy. I'll be shaping the new frame tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2011 11:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got the new frame cut and shaped. After the base form was in the correct contours and shapes, I sealed it off using a thinset mortar mix. It sealed up the foam nicely and dried to a hard finish. After sanding it down to smooth it out and take off any high spots, I gave it a layer fiberglass. Then another two layers of just the resin without the cloth, came out nice and solid.

Sealed with thinset:


Here it is with the fiberglass. I wasn't too pleased with how the magazine well impressions came out, so I decided to cover them over with sheet styrene with another sheet above it cut out to create the mag well impression. The box magazine didn't maintain enough of its sharp corners, so rather than trying to build them up with bondo, I'll be covering it with styrene sheet instead.

Test fit of the detail pieces, some additional pieces aren't shown here:


I'm pretty pleased with how the fiberglass turned out. It definitely strengthened the foam and hasn't added a great deal of weight to it. But it was by no means any quicker than tooling it up in wood. I'd say the amount of work time was about equal. Once I get the last of the detail parts attached, it'll be time to prime it. Then I'll have to figure out what kind of color scheme to go with.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking good...glad to see that sometimes, there's nothing better than MDF and styrene Wink
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