looking for real Steyr SL reciever and trigger parts...

[darthwolf7]

Hey everyone! I am currently working onseveral Blaster projects an Off World conversion, which is almost done and my latest interest...building a blaster from scratch using actual parts like the hero model...going to be hard and expensive but I'm willing to be patient with the acquisition of parts and how I get the all assembled...this is not a race. At the moment I have the grip frame and a host of other parts but no Steyr parts...I'm WO string if there are any out here or if I'm going to have to buck up and buy a whole rifle just to tear it apart?!....let me know, I'm not quite ready to buy but wondering prices for parts!? Thanks everyone!

[racprops]

Well as far as I know you will pay around $800.00 to $1000.00 for a Steyr Receiver. (to be dead on you want a 1968 model, and the serial number will be different.)

And about $35.00 to $55.00 for a ammo clip and $60.00 to $100.00 for a Trigger assembly which includes the ammo housing.

Then your next major problem is machining the hard STEEL receiver.

Note this has a solid bottom you need to cut away:



And cutting and trimming the trigger assembly.

And machining a whole new bolt as you cannot use a real Steyr bolt, and buying the rear cap $35.00 to $55.00 and cocking lever again $35.00 to $55.00.

Which you also have to cut and machine.

A new Bulldog will run around $350.00 to $450.00 and you will find old ones run about the same...

Then you will need a custom made 4.5 inch real barrel and these can run from $150.00 to $200.00.

IF you going to stay accurate and make all the rest..outer grip frame, grips, butt plate, side covers, trigger guard and side rod..your going to have a lot of fun....

You will most likely have to do what so many have done before, buy one of my models as a guild and supply all the "other" stuff..

So add $1500.00 to $2000.00 to you planned costs.

OR buy a Tomenosuke Kit for $550.00..it will also serve as guild and supply the extra parts so you don't have to make all the other stuff.

I have layed out this cost and plan for a few others...

Very few have gone the whole way.

Most have gone with buying one of my models and replacing the Bulldog with a real Bulldog.

My 2 cents worth.

Rich
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[darthwolf7]

Wow,?! Is do better to just buy one of yours Rich...that's very helpful information... the cost is a bit out of my league to buy right now but maybe someday I will go the full distance and do it for real....thanks for the info... cheers!

[racprops]

Mine or the Tomenosuke Kit.

Consider: in my case I was able to carve and machine a 1/2 dozen plastic receivers to get the best fit.

And I did just about the same with all the other parts.

A ton of trial and error.

I did all the groundwork to recreate what the original prop maker did.

And I update and changed parts and features as new information was found.

From this point on EVERYONE whom has made a near accurate model has used my model as a guild.

Rick Ross being the only Exception as far as I can tell, he does his own thing.

Rich
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[joberg]

Thanks Rich with the pricing info and that's not even including your time and machining cost...WOW is the word for sure.
My admiration to some of our members that went all the way with this gun.

And as for you darthwolf, you'll have all my admiration for a project like that

[darthwolf7]

It seems like a HUGE project and quite expensive but something inside me still wants to do it!!!I may very well buy one of your blasters first then later on try yo make my own...my biggest problem isthat the shop I use belongs to a friend and my time there is fairly limited!??? Also a tremendous lack of funds at the moment too...I might but a kit first....I dont know...just ready to start another project soon now that I'm almost done with my Off World modifications...your information and knowledge are priceless Rich.. thanks!

[Ozwepaie]

My dream is to build a "real" one as well. Not too concerned w/a shooter.
I just want the actual guns.
Getting a bulldog & doing the machining is cake. (for me I mean)
It's the Steyr. I had the opportunity to buy a working vintage rifle a few
yrs back. But for $1800. I just could not bring myself to destroy it.
So I passed.
& to this day. I've never had another come my way. I figure, if it's meant to
be? I'll find a beat to crap one, or something?
But I don't know where to look anymore? Probably have to go to Austria?

Who has one here? & where did you find it?
Once I have the receiver. I'll bust a move on the whole thing. But until then.
There's really no point.
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[darthwolf7]

Ahhhh yes. I too am on the Steyr quest...the only person I've ever encountered that had one to destroy is on this forum...he has sacrificed it to the BR gods too to be made into a blaster!!! Someday I will find one, til then...its fun to dream! Cheers!

[racprops]

As much as it pains me to say this..get a Tomenosuke Kit.

Here is the thing...if you do find a Steyr Receiver, you still have to make the bolt, front cap and you still will have either the wrong serial number or even the wrong year.

And you will have a nice big machining bill and hope it does not get torn up milling it out...

Then all you need is a Bulldog and a real barrel.

And I can sell you a real 4.5 inch barrel for $200.00 so with the kit you in only $750.00.

AND you will have the side covers, rod, grip frame and grips and butt plate...and the ammo clip as well.


My 2 cents.

Rich
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[darthwolf7]

I'm sure it hurts to say that Rich...I thought those kits were $1500 and up!?! Hmm...now my brain is churning...but if I buy the kit it lessens my chance to get one of yours Rich! I see that beauty up on EBay right now and I'm drooling!!! Thanks for the input...it makes sense!

[racprops]

I am advising those whom want a real Bulldog with a real Steyr Receiver...

The next best thing would be mine or the Tomenosuke Kit.

As long as the kit is for sale it is a better deal for making a real shooter or model with a real Bulldog.

I still feel my build models are a match for the Tomenosuke Pro.

( More features, metal Bulldog and a real prop feel...)

My kit is not a match for the Tomenosuke Kit.

But time is running out as they are running out of kits.

So I had to advise what is the best.

Rich
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[darthwolf7]

I didn't know they were still for sale!???? I thought they were sold out!??? Who do I need to know to get one?

[racprops]

I don't know..sorry wasn't there a thread about them??

See http://propsummit.com/viewtopic.php?t=4039&highlight=mune

Good luck.

Last I read there were possibly a few left.

Rich
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[Ozwepaie]

[darthwolf7]

I hear you on that one Oz! I'm not concerned with the serial number and all that to have my own would be very cool...maybe someday!? I'm ordering a kit though...since I don't have one yet....
Looming forward to that bolt whenever its fine! No hurry, whenever its done...I feel like Ralphy waiting for his Little Orphan Annie decoder ring in Christmas Story! Ha! Ha! Cheers!

[Ozwepaie]

[darthwolf7]

Like I said...when it gets here... it gets here! Thanks.. I like the idea..could be very cool...that I would like to see!?! Cheers!

[spinner 44]

Richard models have one thing that tops them over the rest of ALL kits. They are casted from original parts, so you may never get a more accurate reproduction of the original gun.

I have a RAC Version 2 and its amazingly well casted and machined. Surely it has been improved a lot since that version, my main issues were with the Steyr barrel front, that was a bit too thin, but I think Rich has corrected this years ago. Other than that you have pieces that are EXACT to the Bulldog and Steyr but casted in metal or resin.

Tomenosuke (I have 3 versions) is a masterpiece of engineering and a reproduction made from scratch. Some pieces are really faithfull to the original, some have slight variations. I wish they would have adquired an old Bulldog, a Steyr and copied it (or a model from RAC). PE: The Steyr cocking lever is not very accurate, the triggers could be a bit better, the Bulldog frame has slight inaccuracies.

So all in all, if RIch teamed Tomenosuke (castings from originals, grips in the right color + inmacculate production) we would have a perfect replica.

[racprops]

I read on another site there is less than 10 Kits left.

Good hunting..

Thanks Spinner 44.

Rich
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