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Bwood Community Member
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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Agreed. |
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svander Community Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:51 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I agree with the intrinsic inconsistencies about the tomenosuke. If they were going for the brand new "as-issued" look, then why the missing screw on the blackstrap? Seems like they wanted accuracy to the film prop at one point by then their own anal-retentiveness got in the way and made the gun look fresh off the assembly line.
That's said, I'm extremely happy with it. I've always wanted this gun and I'm happy to finally have the opportunity to own it. The brand new look works well with the idea/theme I am working on that this is a newly issued gun to a newly graduated blade runner, rather than a blaster that has been through battle and dispatched its fair share of skin-jobs. |
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joberg Community Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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Japanese are known to take something and improve it to perfection...which the gun from the movie is not; you have the Steyr (perfect, sharp piece of metal) on top of a Bulldog (good, but not sharp) then other pieces that seem to have lived the life of a RepDetect for too long |
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andy Community Guide
Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Posts: 6237 Location: Rochester, NY
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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The model I believe is made with a metal filled plastic so it can be finished to look much more like the film version. I have seen versions that looked pretty damn close. I think they also tried to please all sensibilities but starting with the new out of the box look. They also have sold other versions in the past and may just be trying to go with the potential best seller. Most of their market is still in Japan, and they offer finished version by Nobu in limited editions as far as I know. They have been pretty good at covering all bases, except for where they have had to follow laws not allowing metal working gun parts in the Barrel and Receiver in Japan. Thus the metal filled plastics for those parts.
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svander Community Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmm not so sure about that, the pro "retail" assembled version I recently received sure feels like metal to me (very cold to the touch, metal on metal sound) for the receiver and barrel at least. |
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hirohawa Community Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:08 pm Post subject: |
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The Tomenosuke Barrel is not metal. A plastic container in your fridge is also cold right now. |
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andy Community Guide
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 12:23 am Post subject: |
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It is mixed with powdered metal into it. It will feel and even have the weight of metal to some degree.
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Buch Community Member
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:51 am Post subject: |
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If it were metal, it would be illegal in Japan... As far as I know it's illegal to even hold a gun in your hands in Japan! Last year a man got arrested for 3D printing a gun.
The cylinder, barrel and frame on the Tomen are all made of plastic with some kind of metal powder mixed in to it. _________________ Monsieur, azonnal kövessen engem bitte |
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svander Community Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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Here is a post on the tomnosuke blog that shows which parts are metal and which parts are plastic on the blaster. Hope that clears it up.
http://tenshu53.exblog.jp/7544232/ |
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svander Community Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2015 4:59 pm Post subject: |
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Buch wrote: | If it were metal, it would be illegal in Japan... As far as I know it's illegal to even hold a gun in your hands in Japan! Last year a man got arrested for 3D printing a gun.
The cylinder, barrel and frame on the Tomen are all made of plastic with some kind of metal powder mixed in to it. |
That's not true at all. The tomenosuke blog does a great job at explaing which parts are metal and which parts are plastic due to ththe firearms control act in their country. It's worth copy / posting most of their posts on Google trqnslate and leaning a bit about it. Most of the parts that are supposed to be metal on the prop are metal on the tomnosuke with the the exception of the bulldog frame (except the grip module, which is metal) and the barrel.
Th steyr receiver, lever, triggers, trigger guard, butt plate, grip frame, etc at all metal. |
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svander Community Member
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Buch Community Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 4:56 am Post subject: |
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But now you're talking about some totally different parts?!
The pictures show exactly what I just said: The frame, the cylinder and the barrel are plastic... Nobody argued that the blaster didn't have any metal parts at all. _________________ Monsieur, azonnal kövessen engem bitte |
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svander Community Member
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2015 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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Yes sorry, that's my mistake. The barrel and frame aren't metal.
They sure feel heavy and "metallized" for lack of a better term.
I also thought you guys meant that the whole gun is plastic when there are tons of metal to it.
I guess we are all saying the same thing. |
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