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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 2:52 am    Post subject: Big scale POLICE SPINNER CAR - ROSWELL (Japan) Reply with quote

Hi Propsummit

Roswell (Japan) announced on their website......
COMING SOON..... that they will be releasing a BIG 1/10 scale "Blade Runner Police Spinner" vehicle with internal and external LED lights.... It is called >>>> "FUTURE POLICE CAR" 1/10 scale FPC44 Shocked

I am not sure if it is going to be a completed model or a kit at this stage. I hope it is released as a completed model....and that the price will be cool. Roswell (Japan) stuff usually is quite expensive but the quality is very good.

Here is a 'Google Translation' of the Japanese writing that is on the website advert ....

".....1/10 - FPC44 (Future Police Car 44)

FPC44 of 1/10 scale production is finally start! Front and rear wheels & tires covered mosquito flight state [hover mode?] and stop state movable. LED illumination is a full spec that shines cockpit and the signal tower. Will be determined as soon as the product detail is not responsible for release date! ...."

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Website: http://roswell-japan.wix.com/site#





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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the price?

I kind of see that the cop lights on top look a little messy..you would think that such a future car the roof lights would be more like today's low profile light bars.

The current light bars look almost as thin as a roof rack.

And are clean looking.

Funny how they missed that.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Must be early days, as they don't have many spec's on it yet. Not sure if it is a kit or a finished model. No price shown yet.

Not sure about all those roof lights...have to look at the movie vehicle to see if movie accurate. As is typical with the designs in 'Blade Runner'...a bit of post modernism mixed with futuristic and old-style designs with a splash of imperialistic art deco designs.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not sure about all those roof lights...have to look at the movie vehicle to see if movie accurate.

Same car?
http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ja&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fhobbycom.jp%2Fmy%2Ff603c7fa47%2Fphoto%2Fproducts%2F2783

I don't know what he used for reference, but I would assume Randy Cooper's Spinner would be reasonably accurate - maybe one could use it for comparison.
http://randycoopermodels.com/content/finished-spinner-images-finished-spinner
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can tell by the details that their model is based in the full size spinner. The lights on the roof are perfectly accurate to the real car.

Being a Rosswell model with lights and all I guess it will be a kit with a high price.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was not saying the model was wrong..only that the originator was a little off having all those clunky lights on top when now a days the cop cars have light bars that look like luggage racks...

Those new lights make is much easier to slip up on you than the old big lights.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks awesome!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love it...seems accurate to me (including the lights)this is some serious model Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks very interesting. The lights aren't accurate though, the lights on top are red but should be amber, there`s no white light in the middle of the left hand section, the cake tin like light on the side should be yellow and the two mini teardrop lights at the front of the light bar are new.
My hope would be for a kit as a completed model would run a high price.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I kind of see that the cop lights on top look a little messy..you would think that such a future car the roof lights would be more like today's low profile light bars.

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I was not saying the model was wrong..only that the originator was a little off having all those clunky lights on top when now a days the cop cars have light bars that look like luggage racks...

I defer to cratercritter for one explanation:
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As is typical with the designs in 'Blade Runner'...a bit of post modernism mixed with futuristic and old-style designs with a splash of imperialistic art deco designs.

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The lights aren't accurate though, the lights on top are red but should be amber, there`s no white light in the middle of the left hand section

If you observe the photos of the original, the lights in question are indeed red, not amber. There is a light in the middle of the left hand section but it appears to be off.
http://propsummit.com/upload/696/img_876041_23166843_8.jpeg
http://propsummit.com/upload/696/img_876041_23166843_7.jpeg


I think the lights are the way they are because that array was typical of the era the movie was made and also, where would you put a current style light bar on a roof shaped like the Spinner's?


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roswell Company wrote me an email today in response to my queries.

They say that they plan to produce the 1/10 scale vehicle as a completed model and also as a Kit version.

Prices for both types of product are not available yet and there is no confirmed release date yet.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Syd Mead designed the middle pillar to take the place of the police lights, but the car builders and model makers changed that for the film so people in 1982 would get the idea that it was a police car, and for the cool lighting effects they were able to do with the miniatures that gave those cars their signature look now. It is a bit anachronistic, but then again so is the whole film. Each of the scale models and full scale cars may have had slight variations in the light set ups too.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Bwood"]
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I think the lights are the way they are because that array was typical of the era the movie was made and also, where would you put a current style light bar on a roof shaped like the Spinner's?


I agree that IS how they did it...

I was just reacting to how odd it looks on top of such a slick car, and I am glad Sid had a better idea, too bad that they messed it up.

As for how to do today's light bar, it would bend and follow the roof line of course.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But, without them we don't have all those cool lens flairs Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Syd was instructed to give the cars more detail, which I think might be against his nature. He added all the wiring on the outside of the cars and you can see the progression in his concept art. This all became part of the "retrofitting" aspect of the film which he was also doing with the street scene concept art. As far as the film goes it works just fine. That is what most people want too, what was seen on screen, but I am sure some people will modify them to their tastes, as they have before. The lights don't have to be put on, as do all the decals as well. They are not molded on top into the roof, or at least I seriously doubt it.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote][quote="Bwood"]
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If you observe the photos of the original, the lights in question are indeed red, not amber. There is a light in the middle of the left hand section but it appears to be off.
http://propsummit.com/upload/696/img_876041_23166843_8.jpeg
http://propsummit.com/upload/696/img_876041_23166843_7.jpeg


Both spinners seen on screen have amber lights on top not red ones. I would prefer the company went with screen seen in their final version. Gene may have made them red as seen in the pics but for whatever reason, they never made it to the screen.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Both spinners seen on screen have amber lights on top not red ones.

Mr. Webber, it would appear that you are correct as shown in these two photos..
http://propsummit.com/upload/696/spinner_real_interior.jpg
http://propsummit.com/upload/696/screen_shot_2013-10-31_at_34737_pm.png
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have one of the Blue lights. i wonder how the scale model cars compare.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From Douglas Trumbull's site...




It looks like they are using the SFX miniature for reference.

full size pics...
http://douglastrumbull.com/sites/default/files/images/spinner_passes4.jpg
http://douglastrumbull.com/sites/default/files/images/spinner_film.jpg

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah...does too. Well picked up Andy.

Still a formidable looking model...not too fussed about screen accuracy... will look very impressive at 1/10 scale. Cool
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