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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 2:00 pm    Post subject: Fixing the finish on Tomenosuke Pro. SUCESS,..maybe Reply with quote

Hello all,

I have a Tomenosuke Pro. The first one with the best finish. Anyway I bought some special micro fiber cloths that are supposed to be for super expensive paint jobs on cars and are ideal for props. The Pro had a perfect finish. The Steyr section just looked incredible. I used one of the cloths to wipe it down after handling it and it screwed up the finish. It has all these super fine scratches now and honestly looks like I took a super fine steel wool to it. It looks fine looking at it casually but turn it to the light or look at it right and you can see it's messed up.


My luck is just the worst.

Anyway does anyone have any idea what kind of metal and finish these things have and any ideas on how to fix it????

I can not believe this happened.

Finally ditching my Star Wars crap I am able to afford to work on my other small prop collections. I was so excited to re-build my Blade Runner collection and of course I needed a new blaster.

I actually have three kind of by accident but I am only keeping two. That's a funny story for another time.

I have the first Tomenosuke and the latest plus a new Coyle on the way.

Anyway I just got the Pro and the Retail yesterday by coincidence and managed to screw up the finish on the Pro the second day I had it.

It still looks awesome but you can see the damage. I wanted to keep this AFB or As First Issued and make my new Coyle the more used one. Gonna hold onto the Retail to sell until after the new film comes out.

Man this sucks. This was supposed to be a very good day.

Thanks
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Anyway I bought some special micro fiber cloths that are supposed to be for super expensive paint jobs on cars and are ideal for props.

Tell us what's "special" about these cloths. I can't imagine any 'ordinary' microfiber cloths scratching anything... Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Anyway I bought some special micro fiber cloths that are supposed to be for super expensive paint jobs on cars and are ideal for props.

Tell us what's "special" about these cloths. I can't imagine any 'ordinary' microfiber cloths scratching anything... Confused


I don't really know. I asked at the auto store for really ggod quality cloths that would be good for polishing and cleaning things with frgaile or expensive finishes, etc. and the ones I have are what they gave me. They are Autozone Brand Auto Cloths.


I will never use them again so my concern is how to fix it.

Mother Aluminum Polish has been suggested????

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you may need to add some cold blue to take out the scratches. I would not recommend using any sort of polish as it will likely remove more of the finish especially since it did not survive the microfiber unscathed.

Some pics would also be helpful.

Sorry you are going through this.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some fine grade polishing compound may do the job. Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I've learned about microfiber towels...

http://www.autopia-carcare.com/inf-microfiber.html

http://www.explainthatstuff.com/microfibercloths.html
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pics:

These make it look worse than it is. For example the rest of the blaster is perfect and it does not look like it in the pics so it's not this severe in person but still sucks









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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it was me, I'd contact Tome about the issue and see what they suggest..
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If it was me, I'd contact Tome about the issue and see what they suggest..


It's a good idea. I have been searching and can't find any direct way to contact them.

Any links anyone??

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good idea. Maybe Tomenosuke will send a replacement part (remove it)...cheap or free(?).
Or...post it off to them (Steyr part only) for repair (??).

Mune of Hollywood-Japan (selling agent for Tom-Pro guns and accessories), could assist with contacts maybe....

His email is >>> mmunegumi@gmail.com
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is JUST from the cloth? You didn't use any solvent or cleaning product?

Very strange.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cratercritter wrote:
Good idea. Maybe Tomenosuke will send a replacement part (remove it)...cheap or free(?).
Or...post it off to them (Steyr part only) for repair (??).

Mune of Hollywood-Japan (selling agent for Tom-Pro guns and accessories), could assist with contacts maybe....

His email is >>> mmunegumi@gmail.com



Thank you. I will contact him.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 18, 2016 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nexus7 wrote:
This is JUST from the cloth you didn't use any solvent or cleaning product?

Very strange.




Nothing on it. Maybe a little oil it ships with. Just lightly wiped it down after handling. Micro cloth was fresh out of the laundry
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 2:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cratercritter wrote:
Good idea. Maybe Tomenosuke will send a replacement part (remove it)...cheap or free(?).
Or...post it off to them (Steyr part only) for repair (??).

Mune of Hollywood-Japan (selling agent for Tom-Pro guns and accessories), could assist with contacts maybe....

His email is >>> mmunegumi@gmail.com



This is what I got back. Not at all helpful:

"I asked our Gun-smith, Toku-san how to restore it.
His only suggestion is re-paint it.

Sorry we can not tell you more details.

Mune"

Not at all impressed with this company. I was not looking for them to fix it, just some helpful info.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried some applying some cold blue? I don't think their is any secret sauce that Tonmenosuke is using besides over the counter stuff. Maybe ask them what their choice brand is. Maybe it is even on a previous blog entry.

Whenever I wipe down my Tomenosuke I apply some gun oil first before using a microfiber towel. But now I am reticent to use a microfiber towel at all after what happened to yours. Although to be fair some Microfiber towels are used for polishing more than drying as stated earlier this thread.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe I've seen some pictures of them using Birchwood Casey, possibly Perma Blue...

For polishing my Tomenosuke I've used Renaissance Wax and a jewelry polishing cloth....

EDIT: Super blue! http://tenshu53.exblog.jp/17775272/
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Microfiber clothes are different depending on their weight and ratio. You can only wash them in cold water and let them air dry. Heat causes the fibers to harden. I generally don't wash them ever. I just throw them away and buy new ones. I bought some yellow ones at Walmart a couple years ago that were great. I keep them isolated to their intended item. I have one for my motorcycle visors, one for computer screens, etc.

It looks like you have micro-scratches which you could probably buff out with something. I know I used the Tamiya finish polish on a project that worked well. Renaissance Wax is also good but I am not sure it will fill the scratches.

It's really hard to suggest ideas without seeing it in person. I know it's frustrating. I just got the Tomenosuke Pro kit started and the brass rounds are polished to a mirror but even the slightest particles on a cloth scratch them.

Good luck.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cratercritter wrote:
Good idea. Maybe Tomenosuke will send a replacement part (remove it)...cheap or free(?).
Or...post it off to them (Steyr part only) for repair (??).

Mune of Hollywood-Japan (selling agent for Tom-Pro guns and accessories), could assist with contacts maybe....

His email is >>> mmunegumi@gmail.com



I tried one last time with this guy to see if he could at least tell me for sure what the Steyr section is made of and how it was finished.

This is what I got:

"This part was played and painted in black."


I am not sure this person has a clue what I am talking about.

I guess I will take it to the gun shop before I try the blue.

Thanks for all the info guys.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2016 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jameth wrote:
"This part was played and painted in black."


Did you point out which version of the pro you have? This sounds like a description of the latest version.

I never had any problems with Mune, on the contrary he's always been very polite and understanding and helpful finding solutions... But I'm not sure he has much technical knowledge of the blaster?

I believe the metal is some kind of zink alloy according to different threads on theRPF.

And as people's answers indicate there's probably no easy solution...

If it were mine I would strip it it and re-blue.
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