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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I definitely like the color of the graphite! But not super keen on the scratches... I think polishing it down, as Mark suggest, is the way to go to get a more even finish....

I'm working on cleaning up the metal parts and polishing at the moment, and havn't decides on the finish yet... I'm leaning towards a light bluing (buffed down perma blue) though... Want something like the picture below...

I know, I know, there's no consensus on the finish...!!!



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2016 7:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Staar wrote:
Looking good, I have never used the Graphite spray but it looks like it does a great job.

The only thing I would do differently is I wouldn't use the steel wool because it scratches the finish. I would apply the graphite and then use a leather strap to rub off the metal at the edges - similar to real wear and tear.

Keep up the great work.


I'm going to reapply and try that, i just happen to have some leather strap kicking around leftover from making my nephew a toy sword last year for his birthday... Thanks for the tip.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I go ahead and tread all the metal parts with BC Aluminium Black for an all black finish.... can I polish that back down to a grey finish somehow? What would be the best way to do that?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is what I do, my black is too strong out of the jar so I mix it 50/50 with distilled water.

Then I rinse the dipped parts in tap water and blow the parts dry.

Wear good rubber gloves and only dip the parts until you see a fair gray covering, you do not need to go to full black, you just want to add some little black to make the too silver pewter LOOK like steel which has a touch of black in it.

Then I scotch bright them and the use a good metal polish to smooth and blend the color and hopefully get some protection.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Aluminium Black and a good pair of rubber gloves have just been ordered!

Thanks, Rich, I think this is the way I want to go...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OPPS Sorry my tired old eyes..

You want PEWTER BLACK for the main parts of the model and Aluminum Black only for the aluminum barrel...

I do not know what aluminum black will do to pewter...

I use both, but the black for the correct metal.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll better get some pewter black as well Very Happy Thanks, Rich...

Anybody knows what happens if you put BC Alu Black on pewter?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got you covered on that question:
http://propsummit.com/viewtopic.php?t=5067&start=42

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

QuartZ wrote:
I got you covered on that question:
http://propsummit.com/viewtopic.php?t=5067&start=42

-Dana


Thanks! Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To my eyes the aluminum black did not coat/convert the pewter as cleanly as the pewter black did.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

racprops wrote:
To my eyes the aluminum black did not coat/convert the pewter as cleanly as the pewter black did.

Rich


Agreed, I'm seeing the same thing...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 2:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed. Whatever it's reacting to is not evenly distributed within the metal. It was very splotchy. Perhaps a good look if you want a weathered/rusty/nasty looking metal finish though.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It does not work any better on Aluminum...

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

racprops wrote:
It does not work any better on Aluminum...

Rich


I've read somewhere that it helps heating the metal and treading it several times with the BC Alu black? But I think I have to experiment a little with it...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After some research I stumbled upon this product.... Novocan Black Patina.... just made a few tests and they're pretty good.. it leaves a dark grey finish, and with further applications the color turns darker, almost black... I imagine it can be polished to a nice finish...


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I may have to try some.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was US $5.90 on eBay so not terribly expensive... it's made for coloring the lead in leaded windows...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2016 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting find!!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still in the process of sanding, polishing, fitting, drilling, tapping, priming etc..... but things are slowly getting together... up next: Lots of chemicals!!

I even got a real binding post (thanks Veektohr!!!) and the unused side panel screw from my Tomenosuke....


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2016 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also got some work done on the ammo clip this weekend... a lot of free hand sanding and fitting, but fun to do Very Happy

Still a lot of details I want to take care of... but progress none the less!


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