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PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So incredible. So jealous.

(not jealous of how much work it is, haha.)
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never have I ever wished I had a belt-sander more than today. I didn't want to go down to the makerspace today (it's like an hour away), so I went in to work and took a whack at the trigger guard in my vice with some 1/2" x 1/4" cold rolled, a couple hand files, and a lot of sand paper. Woof.









This took literally all day, and my thumbs are just pure blister. I would love to bend it into shape, but honestly if I screwed it up I'd be in tears, lol. Time to pack it in, and save that for another day.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked Incredible stamina, skill and tenacity. Thanks for the pics.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cratercritter wrote:
Shocked Incredible stamina, skill and tenacity. Thanks for the pics.


Thanks dude! I thought about just using 3/16 x 1/2, but that looked too thin. A lot more material to remove with hand tools than I thought with that quarter inch, though. My poor thumbs! Embarassed
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice work. Must have been grueling.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2017 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel your pain (and great work btw ) Sanding/grinding and using files...what joy Rolling Eyes NOT!! You're right about taking a breather after all that work!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

More baby steps. Got to bending the trigger guard today. Here's my high-tech jig.



I kept checking against this tomen TG, just working it across the pivot points on my jig.



Hardest part was getting that sharp 90 degree bend that mounts against the Bulldog's grip frame. A little perseverance, though, and bob's yer uncle.



There's still some final fitting left to do, but it's pretty much done!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daily dose of awesomeness: This build.

So, if you just want to give it away when it's done, I'll take it.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love watching your progress mate. Looking just about prefect, cheers a bunch for sharing!

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a big smile on my face when I saw your jig Very Happy I used to do bicycle frame and that was one of the trick we used to bend our frame!
Love the build and the tuto; keep up the great work!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys! Does anyone know of a resource for all the fastener sizes for the blaster, or is that still kind of up in the air? I'm planning a trip to the hardware store to stock up on all the drills and taps I'll need, but couldn't find any consolidated info.

joberg wrote:
I had a big smile on my face when I saw your jig Very Happy I used to do bicycle frame and that was one of the trick we used to bend our frame!
Love the build and the tuto; keep up the great work!


If it works, it works! I really want to build a bike someday!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

veektohr wrote:
Thanks guys! Does anyone know of a resource for all the fastener sizes for the blaster, or is that still kind of up in the air? I'm planning a trip to the hardware store to stock up on all the drills and taps I'll need, but couldn't find any consolidated info.

joberg wrote:
I had a big smile on my face when I saw your jig Very Happy I used to do bicycle frame and that was one of the trick we used to bend our frame!
Love the build and the tuto; keep up the great work!


If it works, it works! I really want to build a bike someday!


It's 90% 4/40 SAE hex bolts with a few 6/32 in a few places like the front "sight" domed head bolt.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gotcha, dang I have an M4 in there right now.



Hearing about the 6/32 now I'm wondering if those set screws weren't M3.5 and not M4... Embarassed Does the 6/32 screw thread into the hole, or just pass through into the receiver plug?

I know on the Tomen they have it just pass through, but those take more than a few liberties in their construction. I wish the restoration photos were more thorough...
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its more than likely that it was an m4 as the original was using Metric being a European rifle.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's looking soooo sexy Cool
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really enjoying the progress and living through your build vicariously.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

veektohr wrote:

I know on the Tomen they have it just pass through, but those take more than a few liberties in their construction. I wish the restoration photos were more thorough...


I was always under the impression that since they had direct access to the original when they were first planning their replica that Tomenosuke's blaster was as accurate as you could get without building it from a real Bulldog and Steyr... are there known liberties that they took with the construction? I do remember reading something in one of their blog posts to the effect of "we're not trying to do it with imperial screws anymore, we're going to use all metric. Screw the inch". Are there other structural changes they're known to have made?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BadAtNames wrote:
veektohr wrote:

I know on the Tomen they have it just pass through, but those take more than a few liberties in their construction. I wish the restoration photos were more thorough...


I was always under the impression that since they had direct access to the original when they were first planning their replica that Tomenosuke's blaster was as accurate as you could get without building it from a real Bulldog and Steyr... are there known liberties that they took with the construction? I do remember reading something in one of their blog posts to the effect of "we're not trying to do it with imperial screws anymore, we're going to use all metric. Screw the inch". Are there other structural changes they're known to have made?


It's all nitpicks really. The screws are definitely one thing, but also the way the trigger guard attaches is completely different. Theirs kind of keys in, where the original is just attached with some screws. That's one of the biggest differences. They also cast the bolt handle and inner "bolt" as one piece which makes it a lot easier to get it to turn properly. They also beefed up the handle itself (maybe to make it more robust for casting). The way the receiver mounts to the bulldog is definitely idealized. It works great, but definitely idealized.

What I wouldn't give to hold the original in my own hands. Maybe one day! In the mean time... more playtime/research

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, it would be fun to hold the original prop...yours will be close to it when finished
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Took a little inspirational field trip today. It's been over 100 degrees in LA the past few days, and my AC isn't that great so I had to get out of the apt.



Then I went in to work, cranked up the HVAC, and started working out these grips. This is kind of an experiment, since I'm using the Tomenosuke grip frame, and end cap. At the end of the day I want to have made everything on this blaster, but this is helping me figure out how I'll approach it.



Used transfer screws to get my center punches.



Beautiful, we're done here



Glad I wore my respirator.



Hours of work later with my dremel and sand paper...





So much work, lol, and so little to show for it. Got the backstrap area mostly done, though, but there's still a whole lotta material to take off. I also cut my acrylic quite poorly so I'll probably have to make a few allowances for that... still it's a trial run.

What's it's made me realize is that shaping the scales, grip frame, and end cap together as one piece is definitely the key to making them mate up so seamlessly. What I think I'll do for my final version is get a blank grip frame watercut out of 1/2" aluminum, and attach the acrylic & roughed end cap. Then attack it just like you'd do it you were making a knife. That way the whole thing will fit perfectly. Might even do a couple of them if they turn out nice enough.


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