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faust1193
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Don,

I just wanted to thank you for releasing this and all your hard work that goes with it.
My cylinder is on it's way to Germany and hopefully the bluing and and doing the swap will work out well.

Again many thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This past weekend I had the time to take a stab at bluing the cylinder, and I'm extremely happy with the result! Here it is side-by-side with the stock Tomenosuke cylinder still installed: https://imgur.com/a/mXI0R
As you can see, it's dark, but doesn't have the same matte finish as the Tomen so it catches the light more.

I used the Birchwood Casey Liquid Gun Blue Kit, with Perma Blue, found on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Birchwood-Casey-Liquid-Gun-Blue/dp/B000KKELM8/

I figured I'd put down a quick walkthrough of what I did. All in all it took me about 90 minutes. Use gloves the whole time. I used the cheap, non-fitted, thin plastic gloves you'd use for picking up after your dog or something. I doubled up on them and swapped the top layer out after each step, and that worked fine. Not only is it caustic, but you really don't want to transfer oil from your fingers to the metal while working. I would highly recommend doing it outside... this stuff smells!

I used the Blue & Rust Remover first. I would suggest using paper towels with this instead of one of the swabs included in the kit. The swabs have a nice tight fit in the chambers of the cylinder, and I used them for cleaning/polishing later instead of wasting them here.
Rinsed with water, towel dried.
Don's cylinder didn't have any imperfections on it, so I didn't really need to use the included sandpaper or steel wool at this step.
Applied the Cleaner-Degreaser. Lather it up with this; make sure to get inside the chambers as well. When you're done, rinse with water, then do it again. You want to make sure to get ALL the oil off the metal. No such thing as too much of the Cleaner-Degreaser. Rinse and dry again (after each step, really).

Next was my best trick. A small Gerber baby food jar is the perfect size for the cylinder. I poured all the Perma Blue solution into the jar, then used a wire coat hanger and bent a tiny hook into the end to lower and raise the cylinder from the jar. I'm confident this was a much better approach than trying to evenly swab on the fluid, and I strongly recommend it. It will use all of the bluing solution, but it isn't very expensive so I didn't have any qualms about that.

Don't leave it in the bluing solution for more than a minute. Take it out, neutralize with water immediately. Rinse and wipe it clean of the excess bluing. It'll come out black, but sadly once you remove the excess it takes away a lot of that color.
Do a quick polish with the steel wool to even out the bluing. I thought the wool would remove most of the work, but it didn't. Just do a light, even rub. It helps a lot to achieve a uniform color.
Cleaner-Degreaser again. Rinse, towel dry, repeat with bluing.

All in all, I did five dips in the blue. The color got marginally darker each time but stopped being very noticeable after the third wash. Afterwards, I used the swabs to get all the excess bluing material out of the chambers. After you're all done, coat the cylinder in oil. There are oil wipes included in the kit, but I also completely drenched the thing in some Hoppe's gun oil and let it sit overnight. Use another swab to oil up the chambers.

This was my first time trying to do something like this, and I'm really thrilled with how it came out. Hope this helps anyone else unsure about how to do it, and thanks again to Don!


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did you rinse it with destilled water or tap water?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just used tap water, but I imagine distilled would be preferable.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks Awesome.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like two if at all possible. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 3:40 pm    Post subject: Steel cylinder interest Reply with quote

I just received mine in the mail and it is a work of art. DonParker is, as many of you know, an absolute pleasure to do business with, too.

My only problem is my Tomenosuke is packed away until later this summer when we move. I cannot wait to dig it out and install this piece.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not counting cosmetic, what are the advantages of steel over the original material? Confused
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2018 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well I think it's mainly the cosmetics. the look is way more realistic, and there is no washer blocking the cylinder as in the original piece.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It also adds some more weight to the blaster.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

which you don't really need in my opinion, since the blaster is already heavier than most real firearms, being made of a revolver plus a rifle receiver. I know a lot of people are comparing weights of their blaster, but for me any metal version is really heavy enough.

the steel cylinder is great update though!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I did the cylinder swap with Don's cylinder on my Tomen today.
It is actually very simple and I can only recommend to everyone to give this a try.

@Don

If you are reading this I would like to get two more of the cylinders from you.
Please let me know if you have any left.
Thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2018 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are any of these left on this run?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2018 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also interested in one if there's any left from this run. PM sent.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PM sent a couple of days ago to see if any are left... Unfortunately, no reply... Perhaps he's out of town for a few days...
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also have a PM out to him. A steel cylinder is just what my blaster needs.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interested. PM sent.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm working on more cylinders .
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sweet, please put me down for one.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Don

two more cylinders for me please.
Thanks.
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