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Siderio
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Karl, I don't want to be irritant but I don't want go on for the grips discussion for months and give no importance to the other parts.

In the first below image I did wath Karl said. So I scaled the image using as reference is diagonal yellow line.



OPS! You can think is a magic trick or an image panipulation. No! Why? in the below image you can see that karl didn't use a right tecnical drawing lines to make the quote. Wath does it mean? That the Yellow line result to be almost the mirror-like of the red line. I noted this when I took the measures but I didn't want to be teacher saing that it was not the right why to take the measures and write the quote.



Last image to show how the quotes must be represented on a 2d plane. Everytime I want indicate a measure of a distance betwen two points I have to draw two parallel line.The measures of these two parallel lines must be macth the distance from those points. Otherwise there will be no parallelism, In this way there will be not oblique misunderstanding. As Serafino said we are only talking and mistakes happens. However i admitted that my grips are a bit mm more big:-)


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly, you Guys!

Last time I was away for about a month Karl posts his photos of the WorldCon blaster. This time I'm away and Siderio starts posting about a new blaster model! Perhaps I should just stay away.

Of course, I would need people to let me know what exciting developments happen in my absence. Hmm. I'm starting to see a flaw in the plan. Well I'll hang around for a while, until I can buy one of Siderio's new kits, and then I'll consider going away again. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK now I'm confused. Razz

Just ignore all the previous versions and print THIS picture out so that the length of the line is 55mm.

THat should be about right.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am just curious, why the collectors have to ignore your previous diagrams?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So that line is the width of your fingers when curved, along the area in contact with the front of the grip, right? And it looks like there was a slight gap below your fingers along that line. The line kind of implies a measurement to the side of the last knuckle on your pinkie which would be at an angle to the picture plane.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah this is how it starts to get confusing... I'm trying to force precision out of something that isn't precise.

I simlply picked up a replica BR pistol, held my fingers in the same position as they were in the Worldcon photo, and measured in several places with a digital caliper I have.

So in the measurement across my three fingers, that's the jaws of the caliper, placed across where I'm thinking they ought to be, in the plane of the Worldcon photo.

So yes Serafino. the measurement is across my fingers, not on any point on the gun. I held the calipers roughly in the plane of the photo and measured across the fingers at points that were easy to identify on the photo.

All I'm really saying is that my fingers are 55mm across.

What I hope that does, is give you a measuring stick to hold up next to the gun, so you can say "this line, which is in the plane of the photo, is 55 mm long".

Does that make sense?

And Siderio, I'm just saying ignore the other drawings because I don't think I communicated well enough WHERE on the photo the measurement was being taken. Plus the 55mm is the most reliable of the measurements, the others are less precise.

Does any of this help you? Or am I just confusing you more.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Siderio..I just wanted to say thank you from the bottom of my heart for taking this on. I missed out on your first metal blaster and as much as I love Richrad Coyles gun I simply can't afford it.
Yours hit the price point perfectly and you are doing a fantastic job with this!
Thank you from the entire Bladerunner community!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like a few have already started to hit eBay...
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, I'm a little late coming in to this discussion.

I just ordered the upgraded gripframe from ebay for my older version.

Will those of us that have the older version be able to get the updated plastic parts as well? (mag chamber, side cover, etc.)

Or will they not fit?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bump for updates.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YES...PLEASE! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BUMP...BUMP...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Updates please Sid!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello,
I recently purchased a set of Bianchi Lightning grips that are reported to be the basis for the hero blaster grips. I compared them to my Offworld blaster and the difference is greater than I originally believed. This research may be too late to be of any use to Sid but I am willing to send the Bianchi grips to him if he needs to measure or mold them. I also noticed the Bianchi grips are more rounded in the checkered area, the Offworld is noticeably flatter.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Offworlds is comsiderably smaller than the original prop,based on a .38 revolver rather than the .44 Bulldog of the original....
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also note the hole, there is no mark where that was filled in.

I heard there was a amber tortoise shell grip that was used.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What exactly is the evidence that the Bianchi grips have anything to do with the prop please?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the outline of the Bianchi grips and finger notches may have been used to make the fit for the custom grips, at least that is what I have been told. I still have yet to make 1:1 comparison yet.

Actually I just realized that the Offworld uses an actual bulldog grip frame as well, and these grips may just fit.

It is not true that the Offworld is that much smaller than the real prop. The main dimensions match my Coyle almost perfectly, and his Steyr parts are almost 1:1 exactly. The main size difference would be the Cylinder and its housing. Also Offworld seemed to add material to the top of the bull dog frame to make it fit better where Rich cut material off. All of Sid's parts seem to be a bit oversized though, so it may not work.

Either way if someone wanted to make upgrade parts to the Offworld I think there would be some buyers here.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the problem is that replicas use a .38 caliber and the prop is .44 caliber.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Serafino wrote:
What exactly is the evidence that the Bianchi grips have anything to do with the prop please?


I posted this in the Grips thread hera at Propsummit.

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For what it's worth, I saved a post by philipes from (maybe) around Sep 2006 about the grips--can't remember the thread Confused

Used without direct permission, so I can remove the "post pic" if needed:


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