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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jfuste wrote:
Kai is an artist.... and a lucky man.... Well, let's him to explain how these tiles are so accurate.... Smile


Back to this old matter...

Yeah, I been lucky to see the actual tiles with my very own eyes. Some time ago, George Lucas wanted me for certain project and he paid my flights & expenses to United States. For couple of week I was in LA. One day I got off my work and hopped into taxi to see Ennis House. Took lot of pictures about these tiles.
Later when I got back to Finland, made measurements about pics and negative / positive molds of one tile-design. The Ennis House has several different tiles. My original plan was to use vacuum formed ABS, but mdf-templates were not good for that. After that I produced some 20+ or so tiles made of painted paper. Very cheap and light to hang option, only the sand spaypaint was expensive to cover tiles.
My molds should be still somewhere here. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What size is that fibreglass tile? 16" x 16"

Can someone PM me the link to get one? I hope they'll have stock when I recover from my current 'credit crunch'...

15 x 15 inches actually, they come up on ebay from time to time and are listed as Deckard Wall Panels.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Tiles sold by the gift shop came in several sizes. 12", 14" and 16" I believe. The 15" ones I have never heard about before. Maybe the 14" with seems on all sides included, or 16" without the seems.

From my understanding FLW used, and even formulated building standards. Mainly because he along with his son invented concrete blocks and standard building materials on his Usonian houses. Of course I could be remembering it all wrong. It has been over twenty years since my architecture classes and reading all the books on FLW.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your right Andy, GW`s tiles are in fact 16 x 16, now i know why that land
surveying job didnt work out.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is a tile I made 8 years ago out of foamcore and cardboard (12"X12"). It took me about 3 hours to make (not painted or aged). I used half-rounds instead of the bevelled look for the small square.


BTW there are 3 types of tiles in the Ennis house:
1. a "left-hand" tile, i.e., the small square at the bottom left
2. a "right-hand" tile, i.e., small square at bottom right
3. a flat tile

As you have noticed, the set decorator for BR only used the left-hand and flat tiles. While I can see why a stencil/wallpaper would be an inexpensive way to make the tiles, one major drawback is the loss of the play of shadow and light against the different layers/levels of the tiles - as intended by FLW.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

joberg wrote:
Here is a tile I made 8 years ago out of foamcore and cardboard (12"X12").


Wow. Good work I guess!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joberg. That looks amazing! Very well done.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, but next time it'll be better.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Thats the spirit"............
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about this one guys ?...

http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200274280873&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.fr%3A80%2F%3F_from%3DR40%26_trksid%3Dm38.l1313%26_nkw%3D200274280873%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_fvi%3D1
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very nice find!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FYI: inventor of the first modern concrete is an Englishman by the name of John Sweaton (1756).
In 1824, Joseph Aspdin, another Englishman, invented Portland cement used today in modern construction.
Reinforced concrete was invented by the Frenchman Joseph Monier in 1849.

FLW called Ennis his first ''textile house'' for the concrete blocks were weaved by steel rods to hold them in place.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If people are interested to fork $175.00 + $24.00 in shipping you can always check: www.maclinstudio.com , they're making a 16''x16'' tile, that to my knowledge, is the most accurate.
U.S. shipping only...
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.maclinstudio.com/frllwrenhoca1.html

A tad pricey. But nicey, I guess. Smile
 
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pricey indeed Confused

As for accuracy, it seems these people have the rights to produce replicas and they look just like the EBH souvenirs. Although these tiles look angular, sharp and pristine, they were made from the original specs. They just haven't been subjected to decades of weathering or vac formed like the BR ones.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eagle wrote:
http://www.maclinstudio.com/frllwrenhoca1.html

A tad pricey. But nicey, I guess. Smile
 


Take a trip back in time to the original EBH website via Wayback Machine.

And compare those prices!

http://web.archive.org/web/19990506184339/www.ennisbrownhouse.org/giftshop/pp/1_2_3_4.html
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

precinct wrote:

Take a trip back in time to the original EBH website via Wayback Machine.

And compare those prices!

http://web.archive.org/web/19990506184339/www.ennisbrownhouse.org/giftshop/pp/1_2_3_4.html


Gee that site looks Familiar Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heres the before and some afters of GW`s tile after it was painted and aged in different light. In the end i just rubbed fireplace dust around the tile. Just need about another 300 more Sad





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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good job offworld66. I'm still looking at ways to produce this tile in a more cheaper/easy manner. If everything goes well, I'll have news for everybody in the middle of this month; stay tuned!
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