Fake liquid help

[jameth]

Anyone know how to make fake liquid. In other words a material you can poor in a bottle or glass and it will harden and look like liquid but is solid so no spilling if it gets knocked over.

Need it for my Blade Runner display.

Whiskey, Blue Alcohol, Clear for Vodka, etc.

Thanks

[Robotprops]

You could do it with a clear epoxy casting resin. They have tints for them to get whatever colour you want.
The downside is you need to be very careful pouring the stuff. If you get any on the sides of the bottle, the bulk of it will collect before hardening, but any trace amounts can be a real mess to clean up.

[Bwood]

If you do not have the necessary tools, you will have problems with air bubbles during the mixing process when you combine the resin and catalyst.
If you can apply some kind of vacuum during the curing, you can eliminate most if not all bubbles ...

[jameth]

[hirohawa]

Also remember that resin has a chemical reaction when it kicks and gets super hot so if your bottle is not made of glass you could melt it.

[Robotprops]

A vacuum chamber would be ideal but very costly.

Just spit balling here, but it might be possible to rig a chamber by building an air tight box, and applying a very strong vacuum, but it would need testing.
If you take care when mixing the resin and catalyst, you could avoid bubbles. Try it in a test bottle and see how it goes...

I've seen the thing done that you want to accomplish, but I don't know exactly what they've used. Search "drink" on this site. It's an acrylic or resin...
http://www.barnardltd.com

There might be a gel or polymer that you could use too. They wouldn't harden, but would look like liquid without spilling.

[joberg]

Jameth, go to your local Michael store and in the artificial flower isle you'll find a product that imitates water when hard. Easy to use (2 bottles one the product and the other the catalyst)...mix it well and you'll get rid of the bubbles and you also have plenty of time to pour it before the hardening process starts. Not very hot it can be poured into plastic containers as well...good luck

[Bwood]

[jameth]

Thanks for all the help guys.

[andy]

The Silicone might shrink away from the glass when it cools. I would also be worried about it breaking any glass it is in during the process with the heats created. What about the candle gels that are made for decorative candles that look like liquids?

Andy

[Bwood]

There is a dangerous element to be considered with gel candles.

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/household/gelcandles.asp

[amfx74]

Hi Jameth,

I will post some product choices later tonight that do not require vacuum degassing.

[Robotprops]

Saw this post on RPF. The Smooth-on silicone Encapso is probably your best bet. Real easy to work with.

[amfx74]

Hi Jameth,

Robotprops has suggested almost exactly the same thing at I was.

I was going to suggest a Platinum silicone from Polytek called Platsil 73-15.

http://www.polytek.com/cart/index.php?target=categories&category_id=430

It is distributed through Mouldlife in the UK and Australia. It is really easy to use. 1:1 mix with no degassing required and no bubbles , can be coloured with any silicone pigments. It can't be broken up like the Smooth-On Encapso K.

The Smooth-On looks very good, their trial kits are always a good buy. I have used their Skin-Tite and dragon skin a number of times. Here is the link to the trial kit.

I would go with the Encapso K as it is just what you are looking for, the Platsil is more for molds.

http://www.smooth-on.com/Tin-Cure-Silicone-/c1113_1276/index.html?catdepth=1

Stay away from resins both urethane and polyester as they with stick to your props and maybe ruin them.

Regards

Alastair

[Bwood]

Thanks, amfx74, great info.

[jameth]

Sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks guys.

[Robotprops]

Hey Jameth have you seen this thread?

http://www.therpf.com/f9/blade-runner-whiskey-glass-bottomless-cibi-54975/

[Mr_Creepy]

I knew it was posted here as well, but couldn't find it amongst the other Cibi/whisk(e)y & bottle threads

http://www.propsummit.com/viewtopic.php?t=1246&highlight=cibi
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