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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:46 am    Post subject: Deckard's Japanese Painting Reply with quote

The painting we glimpse briefly as Rachael runs to the door of Deckard's apartment.
Last time we discussed this, Propsummit user Temponaut had correctly identified it as a portrait of poet Yamabe no Akahito, attributed to the artist Fujiwara no Nobuzane.
If I'm reading NYzeki's blog right, the original screen used reproduction went to a private collector on Ebay back in 1999.





Anyway, www.bridgemanart.com would seem to own the rights to the painting.
If you go to their website you can see they have the image, albeit for licensing purposes only.
http://tinyurl.com/q8ho2et

However, if you search their store they are offering it as a print, reasonably priced in various sizes on paper, canvas, coffee mugs and greetings cards etc.
The annoying thing is the prints seem to be of an older, washed-out version of the painting. Or is just the quality of the thumbnail ? What do you think?

http://www.bridgemanartondemand.com/image/902459/the-poet-akahito-from-the-kokka-1896-97


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TFS Art Deckard and for the link as well...another one of my project in the future (so many to do and not enough time/money) Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update on this. Original print available in various sizes and on different materials. Something for every budget.

http://www.art.co.uk/products/p28107275534/product.htm?rfid=312704
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TFS with us mate...affordable for my wallet
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can anyone suggest what size the print is in the movie? It certainly looks like a very large version from the stills.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gragsi wrote:
Can anyone suggest what size the print is in the movie? It certainly looks like a very large version from the stills.


I was thinking the same thing. With a few more screengrabs you could estimate it's size. The tiles in Deckards apartment are 16" square.

When I first posted this link, I'm sure the Bridgemans site was offering prints that seemed to be more like the version used on screen. You'll notice in the film it looks like a 'touched-up' version of the original or a less detailed repro. Makes me wonder if this was a real world found item?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going over old ground here. Sorry. My memory is terrible.

Here's me almost SEVEN years ago on this very forum!

Art Deckard wrote:

As for the 'commercially available' recreation, fingers crossed! Although I agree it's a bit of a stretch to think the BR team went to the trouble of recreating the piece for the film, they could have just spotted it in a prop warehouse. (Maybe all the work having been done for an earlier film requiring period detail)
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My estimate: 24 inches high...
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 09, 2015 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thinking back to those late '70s - early '80s days, does anyone recall that"painting by numbers" kits were hugely popular? It seemed that everyone got one as a birthday / Christmas present, and examples (both wonderful and dreadful) hung on the walls of many homes. I remember a vast range of artists, subjects and styles were available. Not so common now though. Who knows, this could have been a popular kit in Japan at the time, that someone in the props dept had found or happened to have to hand?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was probably painted for the movie (not the first time Hollywood has done so) Wink...or someone had it already and they decided to put it in the movie, or it was already into the studio warehouse.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Comparison with an older photograph of the painting that bears a closer resemblance to the version glimpsed on screen.





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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And finally, via Nyzeki's 'All That Blade Runner' blog.

This appears to be the original scroll



and below is the actual prop from the movie, sold on Ebay in 1999., starting price $3500.

(note the initials 'as' in the bottom right)



and a copy of the listing (printed on paper because Nyzeki was using the now defunct 'Web TV' to browse the net)



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very interesting Art Deckard...wondering who's A.S.?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A friend sent me a link to this.



http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/roadshow/season/22/new-orleans-la/appraisals/blade-runner-set-decoration-ca-1960--201704A35/
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2018 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems that the expert on the "Antique Road Show" program told her that it could start at $5000... Confused
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Notice how many frames it's gone through (assuming they're all the same print). The print in the movie appears to be mounted on a wooden back, no frame. The British site actually offers it this way:

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm also surprised that nobody mentioned the obviously different facial features in the Blade Runner reproduction (on the left):

* sideburns added
* mouth is closed and puckered (as opposed to the original's open smile or laugh)
* no cheekbones & much weaker chin & jaw lines
* beard hairs all different

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Time for an artist among us to create a faithful reproduction of the movie version. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe they did those changes because of copyright? And who's AS?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Antiques Roadshow video talked about the film used print was painted over. It might have been made from a blurry photo and painted over as a set piece long before Blade Runner and sat on the shelf’s of the warehouse for set decor at the studio. That is why it wouldn’t be a faithful representation of the original painting and the modern reproduction.

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